Sunday 22nd October 2023 ~ Rev Hugh Perry

‘Give therefore to the emperor the things that are the emperor’s and to God the things that are God’s’ (Matthew 22:21) 

That is a very wise statement about taxation and the human response to the divine.  However, we live in a secular democracy without an emperor in which people give little thought about what they might owe to God and still don’t like to pay tax.  In fact, the very wealthy seem less inclined to pay tax than the average wage earners.  Furthermore, on one of the incentives to give money to the church is that it is tax deductible.

So perhaps it’s worth also reflecting on a couple of more recent statements.   

The first is the classic statement from Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. who lived in the United States from March 8, 1841 to March 6, 1935 and was a jurist and legal scholar.  He said that ‘taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society.’ 

An even more recent American and respected Episcopalian lay leader, Bill Gates Senior maintained ‘Society has an enormous claim upon the fortunes of the wealthy.  This is grounded not only in most religious traditions, but also in an honest accounting of society’s substantial investment in creating the fertile ground for wealth-creation’. [1]  Those of you who use Microsoft computer products will understand that Mr Gates senior has firsthand experience of people who create wealth. 

It is also worth noting that quote came from a book by   Jim Wallis, called God’s Politics: Why the American Right Gets it Wrong and the Left Doesn’t Get It and I would suggest that people to the left and right in Aotearoa also get it wrong and don’t get it either.

Bill Loader, a New Zealand Methodist living in Australia, suggests that, although our opening quote could well be one of the most famous of all anecdotes told about Jesus, it is also one that is frequently misunderstood.  Dr Loader suggests that it lends itself to justifying a separation of religion and the activity of commerce and government.[2]  However we could also profitably understand it as a recognition that Christians exist within a wider community and as they benefit from the structure of that community they should also contribute to it.  That fits what we understand of Jesus’ vision of ‘the kingdom of God’ which is both a present and future reality that Jesus’ followers are called to live into reality.  The kingdom of God’ is not something that comes into being through violent revolution but by law abiding citizens loving their neighbours, offering healing and hope.  

Furthermore, giving to the emperor the things that are the emperor’s and to God the things that are God’s is not about setting up an inclusive Christian community and shunning the rest of the world.  It is not about refusing to vote or avoiding civic responsibilities.  It is about being part of our community, facing up to the responsibility of living collectively.

In Jesus’ time people resented Roman taxes.  Like most ethnic groups they felt they would be better off being ruled by one of their own kings.  But the Romans provided security, roads and a three waters system but they certainly believed in user pays. 

Like the corporate empires that rule our world they also believed they should make a profit so the tax may well have been harsh.  Much of it was a flat tax which is always harder for the poor to pay than the rich. 

We have a flat tax called GST and a flat tax is always favoured by the wealthy because there is a lot of poor people to pay it.

Nevertheless, Christians living in the Roman world, or our secular world, must pay for the benefits they receive.  They are also expected to live better lives than people around them and to influence their society by the way they live and the way they participate in their society. 

We are called to love God by loving our neighbour.  That involves caring for others and caring for the way society cares for its people.

Living within the divine realm is about allowing God to guide our life’s journey and our Exodus reading helps us understand that.

Moses had freed the Israelites from slavery in Egypt, saved them from the murderous pursuit of the Egyptian army and had worked through, not just living in the wilderness, but living off the wilderness. 

But with the burning bush experience way in the past Moses had doubts about the journey.  Was God with them or had they all just experienced a series of serendipitous events.  That surely is a question for all religious people which is why we are called people of faith. 

I am sure that many of us facing difficult choices have wished that the divine voice would be absolutely and irrefutably clear to us. 

Many years ago, as a new Christian I was envious of those I met who seemed so full of confidence that God was leading them off on exciting missionary adventures.  But I began to notice that some of them never really completed anything. 

So, it wasn’t long before I began to ask myself ‘how can we distinguish the still small voice of God from the enthusiastic brainwaves of an individual’s inflated ego?’

Reading the story of Moses’ miraculous rescue from a floating basket, adoption by a member of the royal household and the murderous assault on a slave master we certainly could imagine him having an inflated ego as a young man.

But we also see maturity in his discussion at the burning bush when he pleads his lack of public speaking ability and his concern that he will not be believed.

We are told the Israelites spent forty years in the wilderness but the stories are not date stamped or even guaranteed to be in chronological order.  Nevertheless, we can reasonably assume that today’s reading happened a good way along the journey.  A journey through the wilderness but also a journey from nomadic herding to settled agriculture and above all a journey towards a better understanding of divine action in human communities. 

As the journey dragged on, we can certainly imagine that Moses would begin to doubt that he was fulfilling a divine purpose.  Divine patience often clashes with human impulsiveness and, as Moses neared the end of his life, he would be wanting to ‘get the job done.’  They were heading for the ‘Promised Land’ but they didn’t have a map with ‘Promised Land’ marked on it and Bill Gates had not paved the way for Google Maps. With all the time that had passed they would all be wondering if there was such a place.  That is a problem we all have. 

Like the rest of us those moments that Moses remembered meetings with God would have become faded memories. 

So according to our reading Moses experienced another theophany and was given a message for all of us.  Humanity cannot gaze on the glory of God, but we can see when God has passed by. 

In other words, we have a much better chance of seeing the action of God in our lives in hindsight than being directed by a blinding flash of light. 

The moments in my life that I consider to be spiritual experiences were simply a feeling of enfolding presence and an affirmation of belief rather than direction for life’s journey.

One of the struggles I had being selected for ordained ministry was that I could not in all honesty articulate a divine call.  My minister, a delightful petite Irish woman, simply suggested that one day and I might be a wee minister.  At the time I rebutted the idea.

Nevertheless, I enjoyed the study and felt I was happy doing new things.  I met amazing people as the minister of St Stephens in Hamilton so when the Rev John Hunt phoned me and put me in the cleft in the rock by suggesting I should come back to Christchurch I took a fair bit of convincing. 

My own wilderness journey has had its share of anticipation and extremely difficult decisions. Plenty of feelings of inadequacy and sleepless nights.  But when I look back on my life I realise that faith has indeed set me on a journey. 

Moses’ people did get to the ‘Promised Land’ but they probably only recognised it as such when they settled there.  In terms of becoming a people of God they, like us, still have plenty of journey still to go.

That is certainly the case of those who heard Jesus’ call to be part of the divine realm.  On that Journey we are two thousand years and counting and although we can look back at our history and see the glory of God in the footprints of many of the faithful, there are also many dark and godless moments to repent. 

As a church in Aotearoa New Zealand, we are very much a minority and have lost considerable influence in our lifetime.  But that does not make our task any less important.  From our metaphorical cleft in the rock we can look back on those two thousand plus years and see the glory of God shine forth in the civilising influence of the gospel.  

When the disciples of John the Baptist came to Jesus and asked if he was the one Jesus replied: Go and tell John what you hear and see: the blind receive their sight, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, and the poor have good news brought to them. (Matthew 11:4,5)    s 

That is the history of our church, and if we look at our history in the church that is still the church’s story. It also is our story.  The Christian story is a story we are called to keep telling by our living and our loving. 

We live as a minority in a secular world that our Christian values have helped to shape.  We therefore have even more responsibility to give to our democratic society the taxes and the energy it demands of us. 

But as followers of Christ, we must also give to God what God requires of us.

It is in that cleft between our democratic secular society and the divine realm Christ calls us to, that we can glimpse the glory of God transforming our world through us. 


[1] Jim Wallis, God’s Politics: Why the American Right Gets it Wrong and the Left Doesn’t Get It (Oxford: Lion Hudson plc 2005)p.268

[2] http://wwwstaff.murdoch.edu.au/~loader/MtPentecost19.htm

Sunday 22 October 2023

Here’s our Zoom link –

Topic: St Martin’s Sunday Worship. To Join Zoom Meeting:
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81508696154?pwd=cnErZFM5VG5OQVhsZkxYc0dxOHdvUT09

Meeting ID: 815 0869 6154
Passcode: 712158

A very warm welcome to all who worship with us this morning. Many thanks to Rev Hugh Perry for leading our service today. Rev Chris Elliot will be with us next Sunday.

Wednesday Walkers 25th October: Meet 9.30am outside 71a Wychbury St for walk around Spreydon. Coffee at “Morris indoor/outdoor café”. All are welcome. Janette 021 0756780.

MOVIE NIGHT Saturday 28th October 5.15pm: “My Old Lady”. New Yorker, Mathias, travels to Paris to sell a grand old apartment he has inherited from his estranged father. But he is stunned to find a refined old lady, Mathilde (Maggie Smith) still living in the apartment with her very protective daughter, Chloe. He soon learns that under French law, he will not gain possession of the property until Mathilde dies and must make monthly payments to her until that time. A hard-up writer with no other assets to his name and no money for a return fare to New York, Mathias realises with bitterness that he has, in fact, inherited a debt. Much to the dismay of Chloe, the spirited 92-year-old Mathilde offers Mathias lodgings to the apartment until he works out what to do. BYO takeaways to eat, hot drinks provided.

Tomato seedlings available: Peter has planted too many tomato seeds and the result is a surfeit of seedlings which need a new home. Please see Sue asap.

THIS WEEK AT ST MARTINS                                              

Tuesday 10am              South Elder Care (lounge) Jeannette 332 9869

Tuesday 7.15pm           Meditation Group (lounge) Dugald 021 161 7007

Wednesday 9.30am      Walking Group: Spreydon Janette 021 075 6780

Wednesday 10am         Scottish Country Dancers (lounge) Irene 332 7306

Thursday 10am            Crafty Crafters (lounge) Sally 332 4730

Thursday 1.30pm          Sit & Be Fit(church) Anneke 021 077 4065

Friday 9.30am               Sing & Sign (lounge) Becky 022 086 2211

Saturday 5.15pm          Movie Night (lounge) Irene 332 7306

Sunday 15 October 2023

Here’s our Zoom link –

Topic: St Martin’s Sunday Worship. To Join Zoom Meeting:
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81508696154?pwd=cnErZFM5VG5OQVhsZkxYc0dxOHdvUT09

Meeting ID: 815 0869 6154
Passcode: 712158

A very warm welcome to all who worship with us this morning. Many thanks to Rev Sheena Dickson for leading our service today. Rev Hugh Perry will be with us next Sunday.

Wednesday Walkers 18th October: Meet 9.30am in the Mona Vale Carpark for a walk around Mona Vale and the area.  Coffee will be at Mona Vale.

All welcome. Judith 332 1577 or 027 688 1861.

MOVIE NIGHT Saturday 28th October 5.15pm: “My Old Lady”.

New Yorker, Mathias, travels to Paris to sell a grand old apartment he has inherited from his estranged father. But he is stunned to find a refined old lady, Mathilde (Maggie Smith) still living in the apartment with her very protective daughter, Chloe. He soon learns that under French law, he will not gain possession of the property until Mathilde dies and must make monthly payments to her until that time. A hard-up writer with no other assets to his name and no money for a return fare to New York, Mathias realises with bitterness that he has, in fact, inherited a debt. Much to the dismay of Chloe, the spirited 92-year-old Mathilde offers Mathias lodgings to the apartment until he works out what to do.

Presbyterian Support Upper South Island Annual Meeting Thursday 26th October, 44 Bealey Ave, from 5pm. All are welcome. To RSVP email Pip Riley pipr@psusi.org.nz by 20/10.

THIS WEEK AT ST MARTINS                                              

Tuesday 10am              South Elder Care (lounge) Jeannette 332 9869

Tuesday 7.15pm           Meditation Group (lounge) Dugald 021 161 7007

Wednesday 9.30am      Walking Group: Mona Vale Judith 027 688 1861

Wednesday 10am         Scottish Country Dancers (lounge) Irene 332 7306

Wednesday 7.30pm      Parish Council meeting (lounge)

Thursday 10am            Crafty Crafters (lounge) Sally 332 4730

Thursday 1.30pm          Sit & Be Fit(church) Anneke 021 077 4065

Friday 9.30am               Sing & Sign (lounge) Becky 022 086 2211

Sunday 8th October 2023

Here’s our Zoom link –

Topic: St Martin’s Sunday Worship. To Join Zoom Meeting:
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81508696154?pwd=cnErZFM5VG5OQVhsZkxYc0dxOHdvUT09

Meeting ID: 815 0869 6154
Passcode: 712158

NOTICES:

A very warm welcome to all who worship with us this morning. Many thanks to all who nominated their favourite spring hymn. Rev Sheena Dickson will be with us next Sunday.

Name tags – please wear them. With new folk and visitors coming to St Martins, it’s a friendly thing to do for folk to be able to read a name and to get to know everyone. Sonya very kindly creates your tags so if you need one, please check in with her.

Weekly collection – some time ago it was decided to not pass around the offering plates during our service. Instead we have, on the little table just inside the church door, a plate where you can drop your weekly contribution or giving envelope. There will always be a debate as to whether it is the right way to do ‘giving’ but we think it works well and would encourage everyone to be aware of how it functions. Of course, there is the alternative way of giving and that is by direct credit – see Catherine Fitchett regarding that. Thank you for caring and contributing what ever you are able. 

Anna will not be in the Parish Office this Friday (13th October). Please send in any notices by Wednesday 12 noon. Thank you.

Fireside welcomes all women of the congregation and friends to join us from 1.30pm on Monday 2nd October in the church lounge. The plan for the meeting is that Allison {who was very involved with APW} can tell us something about the official closure of APW this year and for others to share memories of mothers or grandmothers going to meetings. All women are very welcome. Margaret 366 8936.

Wednesday Walkers 11th October: Meet 9.30am outside the Town Hall. Coffee at Hoi Polloi at Carnmore Hotel, cnr Colombo & Salisbury Streets. All welcome Elizabeth 021 112 5798 and Sue960 7657.

THIS WEEK AT ST MARTINS                                              

Monday 9.30am            Pastoral Care meeting (foyer) Irene 332 7306

Monday 1.30pm            Fireside meeting (lounge) Margaret 366 8936

Tuesday 10am              South Elder Care (lounge) Jeannette 332 9869

Tuesday 7.15pm           Meditation Group (lounge) Dugald 021 161 7007

Wednesday 9.30am      Walking Group: City Elizabeth/Sue 960 7657

Wednesday 10am         Scottish Country Dancers (lounge) Irene 332 7306

Thursday 10am            Crafty Crafters (lounge) Sally 332 4730

Thursday 1.30pm          Sit & Be Fit(church) Anneke 021 077 4065

Friday 9.30am               Sing & Sign (lounge) Becky 022 086 2211

Springtime Jesus by Joy Cowley

You, Springtime Jesus,
just as I’d settled down for winter,
you broke into my heart
and danced your love right across it
in a mad excess of giving.
Just as I’d got comfortable
with bare branches and unfeeling,
just as my world was neatly black and white,
there you were,
kicking up flowers
all over the place.

Springtime Jesus,
I tried to find a way to tell you
that there were places
where you could or would not dance.
I wanted to guide you on my paths
and have you sign the visitors’ book;
but you laughed right through my words
and sang to me your melting song,
causing sap to fire the branches,
causing the flames of buds
to flicker into green bonfires,
causing a windquake of blossom,
causing burstings, searings, breakings,
causing growth?pain,
causing life.

Springtime Jesus,
the fullness of life can be frightening
and I’m lacking in courage.
It isn’t easy to live with a heart
that’s wide open to invasion.
Teach me, Jesus, how to move with you,
step for step, in your love dance.
Touch my fears with your melting song.
Gift me with your laughter,
and, in the mystery of your Springtime,
show me the truth of the blossoming Cross.

Sunday 1st October 2023

Here’s our Zoom link –

Topic: St Martin’s Sunday Worship. To Join Zoom Meeting:
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81508696154?pwd=cnErZFM5VG5OQVhsZkxYc0dxOHdvUT09

Meeting ID: 815 0869 6154
Passcode: 712158

A very warm welcome to all who worship with us this morning. Many thanks to Rev Chris Elliot for leading our service today. Next Sunday is our Spring Sing.

Please note: There will be a Retiring Offering TODAY to support Your Sisters Orphanage in Tanzania.

The new ‘Messenger’ is available today – many thanks to Sally & Charlotte for their hard work!

Wednesday Walkers 4th October: Meet 9.30am in the Airforce Museum carpark, Wigram. Coffee at the Museum Café. All welcome. Benjamin 022 658 2016.

Name tags – please wear them. With new folk and visitors coming to St Martins, it’s a friendly thing to do for folk to be able to read a name and to get to know everyone. Sonya very kindly creates your tags so if you need one, please check in with her.

Weekly collection – some time ago it was decided to not pass around the offering plates during our service. Instead we have, on the little table just inside the church door, a plate where you can drop your weekly contribution or giving envelope. There will always be a debate as to whether it is the right way to do ‘giving’ but we think it works well and would encourage everyone to be aware of how it functions. Of course, there is the alternative way of giving and that is by direct credit – see Catherine Fitchett regarding that. Thank you for caring and contributing what ever you are able. 

Clothing Drive – Waltham Cottage is collecting pre-loved clothes for a sale this month. If you have any items to donate please drop them off at 201 Hastings St East Mon-Thurs 9am-3pm. Ph 942 2173 for more information.

Congratulations & Many Happy Returns to Lyn who celebrates her 80th birthday on Tuesday!!

THIS WEEK AT ST MARTINS                                              

Monday 5pm                  MenzShed AGM & dinner (lounge)

Tuesday 10am              South Elder Care (lounge) Jeannette 332 9869

Tuesday 6-7pm             Ice Skating team meeting (lounge) Kirsty 021 329 765

Tuesday 7.15pm           Meditation Group (lounge) Dugald 021 161 7007

Wednesday 9.30am      Port Hills U3A (whole complex) Joy 337 2393

Wednesday 9.30am      Walking Group: Wigram Benjamin 022 658 2016

Thursday 10am             Crafty Crafters (lounge) Sally 332 4730

Thursday 1.30pm          Sit & Be Fit(church) Anneke 021 077 4065